Journal check: average R after a win against after a loss, on a made up 20 trade list
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2026 12:26 pm
Journal check: average R after a win against after a loss, on a made up 20 trade list
A quick check I like to run on a journal is to split trades by what happened right before them. Here is a made up list of 20 trades in R, not my results, to show the method: +1.5, -1, -1, +1.5, +1.5, -1, +1.5, -1, -1, -1, +1.5, +1.5, -1, +1.5, -1, -1, +1.5, -1, +1.5, -1.
The total is +2.5R from 9 winners, a 45% win rate. Now take only the trades that came directly after a win. There are 9 of them, they sum to minus 4.0R and average minus 0.44R, with only 2 winners. The 10 trades that came directly after a loss sum to plus 5.0R, average 0.50R, with 6 winners.
On the face of it, this list says the trader does worse after a win, maybe from getting loose after a good trade. Before believing it, check the noise. A single trade here has a standard deviation around 1.25R, so the average of 9 trades has an error of about 0.42R and the average of 10 about 0.40R. The gap between the two averages is 0.94R, and the error on the gap is about 0.58R. That's a ratio of 1.6, short of the usual 2.
A gap that size can easily come from luck in 20 trades. To say much you need roughly 50 trades in each bucket, and the gap has to be about 0.5R.
The method is still useful. It's cheap, and it points at one specific habit to watch once the sample grows.
A quick check I like to run on a journal is to split trades by what happened right before them. Here is a made up list of 20 trades in R, not my results, to show the method: +1.5, -1, -1, +1.5, +1.5, -1, +1.5, -1, -1, -1, +1.5, +1.5, -1, +1.5, -1, -1, +1.5, -1, +1.5, -1.
The total is +2.5R from 9 winners, a 45% win rate. Now take only the trades that came directly after a win. There are 9 of them, they sum to minus 4.0R and average minus 0.44R, with only 2 winners. The 10 trades that came directly after a loss sum to plus 5.0R, average 0.50R, with 6 winners.
On the face of it, this list says the trader does worse after a win, maybe from getting loose after a good trade. Before believing it, check the noise. A single trade here has a standard deviation around 1.25R, so the average of 9 trades has an error of about 0.42R and the average of 10 about 0.40R. The gap between the two averages is 0.94R, and the error on the gap is about 0.58R. That's a ratio of 1.6, short of the usual 2.
A gap that size can easily come from luck in 20 trades. To say much you need roughly 50 trades in each bucket, and the gap has to be about 0.5R.
The method is still useful. It's cheap, and it points at one specific habit to watch once the sample grows.