RSI 70 means average gains are 2.33 times average losses: the ratio in pips on M5
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2026 11:27 am
RSI 70 means average gains are 2.33 times average losses: the ratio in pips on M5
RSI looks like a mysterious 0 to 100 number, but it's a ratio in disguise. RSI = 100 x RS / (1 + RS), where RS is the average gain divided by the average loss over the period, 14 bars by default, with Wilder's smoothing.
Turn it round and you get RS = RSI / (100 minus RSI):
RSI 30: RS = 0.43, so average gains are 43% of average losses.
RSI 50: RS = 1.
RSI 70: RS = 2.33.
RSI 80: RS = 4.
RSI 90: RS = 9.
An example on M5: the average up-move over the last 14 bars is 2.8 pips and the average down-move is 1.2 pips. RS is 2.8 / 1.2 = 2.33, and RSI is 70. If the numbers were 0.7 pips and 0.3 pips, RSI would still be 70. The indicator has no idea how large the moves are, only their proportion.
That matters for scalping, because RSI 70 in a dead hour with 0.7 pip average gains is much less informative than RSI 70 with 2.8 pip gains. One is a ratio of tiny moves that a 0.8 pip spread swallows. A simple filter is to read the ATR next to the RSI and only use overbought and oversold readings when the average bar is bigger than a couple of spreads.
Going from 70 to 80 needs the ratio to go from 2.33 to 4, a much bigger change than going from 60 to 70, where it moves from 1.5 to 2.33. The scale is compressed at the ends.
RSI looks like a mysterious 0 to 100 number, but it's a ratio in disguise. RSI = 100 x RS / (1 + RS), where RS is the average gain divided by the average loss over the period, 14 bars by default, with Wilder's smoothing.
Turn it round and you get RS = RSI / (100 minus RSI):
RSI 30: RS = 0.43, so average gains are 43% of average losses.
RSI 50: RS = 1.
RSI 70: RS = 2.33.
RSI 80: RS = 4.
RSI 90: RS = 9.
An example on M5: the average up-move over the last 14 bars is 2.8 pips and the average down-move is 1.2 pips. RS is 2.8 / 1.2 = 2.33, and RSI is 70. If the numbers were 0.7 pips and 0.3 pips, RSI would still be 70. The indicator has no idea how large the moves are, only their proportion.
That matters for scalping, because RSI 70 in a dead hour with 0.7 pip average gains is much less informative than RSI 70 with 2.8 pip gains. One is a ratio of tiny moves that a 0.8 pip spread swallows. A simple filter is to read the ATR next to the RSI and only use overbought and oversold readings when the average bar is bigger than a couple of spreads.
Going from 70 to 80 needs the ratio to go from 2.33 to 4, a much bigger change than going from 60 to 70, where it moves from 1.5 to 2.33. The scale is compressed at the ends.