One step 10% target with 6% drawdown against two steps of 8% then 5%: zero edge pass odds
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2026 11:19 am
One step 10% target with 6% drawdown against two steps of 8% then 5%: zero edge pass odds
Two evaluation designs, written the way many firms present them, with made-up round numbers. I'm not describing any particular firm.
Design 1: one step. Make +10% before losing 6%.
Design 2: two steps. Step one is +8% before losing 10%, and step two is +5% before losing 10%.
Take a trader with no edge who risks 1% a trade with equal odds. The chance of hitting +T before minus D is D / (T + D).
Design 1: 6 / 16 = 37.5%.
Design 2: step one is 10 / 18 = 55.6%, step two is 10 / 15 = 66.7%, and passing both is 0.556 x 0.667 = 37.0%.
So at zero edge and zero cost, they're the same, 37.5% against 37.0%. Looking at the headline numbers, the two step design with its smaller targets feels easier, and mathematically it isn't.
Now add a cost of 0.1R per trade, with wins of 0.9% and losses of 1.1%. Design 1 gives 9.3%. Design 2 gives 16.7% x 31.3% = 5.2%. The two step version falls further because the trader makes more trades in total, so the cost is paid more times.
The check I'd do before buying either: write down the target, the loss limit and the number of steps, work out D / (T + D) for each step, and multiply. It takes a minute, and it tells you whether the design is easier or only looks it.
Two evaluation designs, written the way many firms present them, with made-up round numbers. I'm not describing any particular firm.
Design 1: one step. Make +10% before losing 6%.
Design 2: two steps. Step one is +8% before losing 10%, and step two is +5% before losing 10%.
Take a trader with no edge who risks 1% a trade with equal odds. The chance of hitting +T before minus D is D / (T + D).
Design 1: 6 / 16 = 37.5%.
Design 2: step one is 10 / 18 = 55.6%, step two is 10 / 15 = 66.7%, and passing both is 0.556 x 0.667 = 37.0%.
So at zero edge and zero cost, they're the same, 37.5% against 37.0%. Looking at the headline numbers, the two step design with its smaller targets feels easier, and mathematically it isn't.
Now add a cost of 0.1R per trade, with wins of 0.9% and losses of 1.1%. Design 1 gives 9.3%. Design 2 gives 16.7% x 31.3% = 5.2%. The two step version falls further because the trader makes more trades in total, so the cost is paid more times.
The check I'd do before buying either: write down the target, the loss limit and the number of steps, work out D / (T + D) for each step, and multiply. It takes a minute, and it tells you whether the design is easier or only looks it.