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Price Is Three Pips From Your Stop and You Want to Move It

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2026 8:57 am
by Fairman
Price Is Three Pips From Your Stop and You Want to Move It

Situation: a long of 0.40 lots on EUR/USD, entered at 1.1000 with a stop at 1.0975, a 25-pip risk worth 100 dollars on a 10,000-dollar account. Price is now 1.0978. You feel a rebound is coming, and consider moving the stop to 1.0960.

Compute the change. The new stop is 40 pips from entry. At 0.40 lots, one pip is 4 dollars, so the loss at the new stop is 160 dollars, 1.6 percent of the account, 60 percent more than planned.

Ask what has changed in the market. The original stop was placed where the idea was wrong. Price is 3 pips from that level. Nothing about the market's behavior has made the idea more likely to be right. Only your discomfort changed.

Consider the outcomes. If price bounces after you widen, you feel clever, and the habit is reinforced. If it falls through, you lose 160 instead of 100, and you may be tempted to widen again.

Probability thinking helps. Suppose that in your history, trades reaching three pips from the stop recovered 20 percent of the time. At 80 percent, they lose, and widening adds 60 dollars to each of those losses, an extra 48 dollars in expected loss, against a gain from the 20 percent that would have been stopped, which are rescued. The rescue gain is 20 percent times the average eventual profit.

The simple answer is to leave the stop. If you want to reduce risk, close part of the position instead.

Exercise: count in your journal how many stop widenings ended well.

Re: Price Is Three Pips From Your Stop and You Want to Move It

Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2026 8:19 am
by Shadow Trader
Nonfarm payrolls come out and in the first two seconds, price can travel thirty or forty pips. Screenshots of those moves circulate everywhere and make it look like free money. What those screenshots leave out is how the market behaved on the way there.

Spreads can jump from 0.2 to 10 or more. Quotes can freeze. Orders can sit in a queue. Platforms can show a price that's already stale by the time it's clicked. The chart shows a clean move, and the trade log shows something else entirely.

Take a typical failure. A pending buy stop sits above the market before the release. The number comes in strong and price gaps through the stop. The fill lands twelve pips worse than the order level, and by the time the position appears on screen, price has already reversed. The stop goes in, gets hit at a worse level, and a trade that looked perfect on paper loses forty pips.

Three different kinds of cost stack up in these seconds:

- The spread, which is several times normal
- The slippage on entry, which can be many pips
- The slippage on the stop, which is usually worse than on entry

Add those up and a clean thirty pip move can produce a net loss for the retail trader who caught the right direction.

Those who consistently profit from the release usually have a specific edge, such as direct market access or very fast infrastructure, and most retail setups don't have it. A fill that lands at the right price a few times in a row can be luck as easily as skill.

A calmer approach is trading the aftermath, ten or fifteen minutes later, when spreads have normalised and a direction has formed. The moves are smaller and the costs are a fraction of the release seconds.

Has anyone ever tracked the true cost of news-time slippage across a full year of releases?