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How the split is worked out when trades are open at payout time

Payout requests at most prop firms are based on closed profit. Open trades complicate that more than people expect.

Some firms require all positions to be closed before a payout request. If you request while a trade is open, the request is rejected or delayed. Others let you request with open trades but calculate the payout only on closed profit, ignoring the floating amount. A few consider equity at the time of the request.

The difference matters for a couple of reasons.

If the firm calculates on closed profit only, and an open trade later closes at a loss, the account balance after the payout will drop. Some firms then measure drawdown from the new lower balance, which can put the account closer to a breach than you'd think.

If the firm requires everything closed, you may need to exit a trade you'd otherwise hold, just to request the payout. Scalpers rarely hold for long, so it's less of an issue, but the timing still needs planning.

The split itself, the share you keep, is usually applied to the profit amount. Read whether the firm takes its share before or after any fees, and whether the first payout has a different split or a minimum amount.

Simplest approach: close everything, request, wait for confirmation, then trade again.

And keep a screenshot of the account balance and the request confirmation, in case anything needs checking later.

Open trades at payout time are easy to overlook. A practical approach is to plan payout requests for a fixed point in the week, for example after the London session on a Friday with all positions closed. That avoids any question about floating profit or loss being counted. Some firms also have a rule about trades open over the weekend, so closing everything before the request removes two problems at once.

Some firms reset the account balance to the starting amount after a payout, while others leave the remaining profit in the account. That changes how much buffer you have going forward. If the balance resets, the drawdown limit is measured from the original level again, and you have no cushion from past profit. If profit stays, you have some room above the starting point. Knowing which applies helps you decide whether to request a payout of all available profit or leave some in the account as a buffer against the next drawdown. Ask about it before the first payout so you can plan around it.

Timing the request around news or the weekend can also matter. If a payout review takes a few days, and the firm requires no trading during review, you might not be able to trade a period you'd usually want to. Some traders request on a Friday after the session so the review happens over the weekend. Others prefer to request early in the week. The right choice depends on the firm's process, which is usually explained in the payout section of the help pages or can be confirmed by asking support before the first request. Holidays can slow reviews down too, so check the calendar before requesting around the end of the year.

The trading days requirement can interact with payout timing too. Some firms require a minimum number of trading days between payouts, or a minimum number of profitable days. A request made too early is simply refused. Counting the days in your journal, using the firm's definition of a trading day rather than your own, avoids an awkward wait. The firm's definition might count any day with a trade opened, or only days with a trade closed, and that difference can shift the date when you're actually eligible to ask. Many disputes between traders and firms over payout dates come down to this difference in definitions.

Taxes and payment methods are separate from the firm's rules but still part of the payout picture. Some firms pay through bank transfer, some through crypto, some through payment services that charge their own fees. The method can affect how much actually reaches you and how quickly. Checking the available methods and their costs before the first request saves surprises. Keeping a record of each payout, its date, amount and method also helps later when you need to report income, depending on how your country treats it. Some payment services also take a cut on currency conversion, which can be larger than the transfer fee itself.

Most platforms say nothing about how long an order took to fill. The history shows an open time, often to the second, and that's it. Without measurement, claims about "fast execution" are just claims.

A simple method: use an expert advisor or script that records the timestamp when the order is sent, in milliseconds, and the timestamp when the fill confirmation arrives. The difference is round-trip time. Log it for hundreds of trades, across different sessions.

The numbers tell stories. Average time might be 60 ms, but the distribution matters more. A handful of 800 ms fills during busy moments can account for most of the slippage.

Split by time of day. Execution during the London open usually looks different from execution at 3am. Split by order type, too: market, pending triggers, and stop-outs often have different speeds.

Also compare closing orders to opening ones. Some brokers give priority to entries and drag their feet on exits, or the reverse.

With a proper log, a conversation with support becomes factual rather than emotional.

What execution times show up in a log for the broker used here, and how much do they swing?

Useful explanation of how open trades affect the payout. One extra point: some firms count floating losses for the drawdown limit while only counting closed profits for the payout, which means an open trade can only work against the trader on payout day. Closing everything before requesting, even if the firm allows open positions, avoids that asymmetry. Another detail to confirm is whether the firm includes the swap on open trades in the closed profit figure, since that varies too.