How many trades a challenge target really needs at your average R
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2026 9:12 am
How many trades a challenge target really needs at your average R
Here's a calculation I'd do before buying any challenge, and most people skip it.
Take the profit target in percent. Divide it by your risk per trade in percent. That's the target in R. For example, an 8 percent target with 0.5 percent risk per trade is 16R.
Then take your expectancy per trade in R from your own history. That's the average R you make per trade across winners and losers. Divide the target in R by the expectancy. That's roughly how many trades it takes, on average, to reach the target.
With an expectancy of 0.2R, 16R takes around 80 trades. At 0.1R it's 160. These are averages, so the real number on any attempt could be much higher or lower.
Now compare that with the time limit if there is one, and with how many trades you take on a normal day. If you take three a day and the math says 160, you need more than fifty trading days. That changes how you should approach it.
It also shows what happens if you raise risk to hit the target faster. Doubling risk halves the trades needed but makes the daily and overall loss limits much closer in R terms.
There's no guarantee in any of it. It just stops you from buying a challenge that your own numbers say is unlikely in the time given.
Here's a calculation I'd do before buying any challenge, and most people skip it.
Take the profit target in percent. Divide it by your risk per trade in percent. That's the target in R. For example, an 8 percent target with 0.5 percent risk per trade is 16R.
Then take your expectancy per trade in R from your own history. That's the average R you make per trade across winners and losers. Divide the target in R by the expectancy. That's roughly how many trades it takes, on average, to reach the target.
With an expectancy of 0.2R, 16R takes around 80 trades. At 0.1R it's 160. These are averages, so the real number on any attempt could be much higher or lower.
Now compare that with the time limit if there is one, and with how many trades you take on a normal day. If you take three a day and the math says 160, you need more than fifty trading days. That changes how you should approach it.
It also shows what happens if you raise risk to hit the target faster. Doubling risk halves the trades needed but makes the daily and overall loss limits much closer in R terms.
There's no guarantee in any of it. It just stops you from buying a challenge that your own numbers say is unlikely in the time given.